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959
1 didn't it?
2 MS KEARNS: Yes, but, your Honor, this witness
3 testified he wasn't the one negotiating.
4 MR. PANTONI: She asked him about this, Judge.
5 THE COURT: I think it would all be based on hearsay
6 since he wasn't involved in the negotiations.
7 MR. PANTONI: I'll ask Mr. Flatley.
8 Q Who's working on binary oligo encoding today?
9 A That's being done by scientist named Gali Stromberg.
10 I'm sorry, Dr. Gali -- I can't remember Gali's last name.
11 Q This is an important area to the company?
12 A Yes.
13 Q Critical?
14 A Yes.
15 Q What's her last name?
16 A Again I'm not recalling her last name. Her name is
17 Gali. She's a scientist from Israel. She does great work.
18 Q And who does Gali, last name unknown, report to?
19 A I believe she reports to Dr. Chanfeng Zhao.
20 Q You testified that Illumina conducted a 16 bead
21 experiment, decoding experiment?
22 A Yes.
23 Q And a 128 bead experiment?
24 A Yes.
25 Q You think maybe a 256?
26 A Yes.
27 Q And a 768?
28 A Yes.
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960
1 Q Did Illumina ever conduct a 4096 bead experiment?
2 A I don't recall. Don't know. I think there might have
3 been feasibility experiments that showed that reaching 4000 was
4 done by Illumina. I don't think we did an experiment to decode
5 4000 beads. So again it's the difference between proof of
6 principle and feasibility versus actually decoding 4000 beads.
7 Q You say the mislabeling the dyes -- strike that. Did
8 the mislabeling of the dyes in your opinion have no effect
9 whatsoever on the results of the 768 decode experiment?
10 A It did not affect the conclusions that one could draw
11 from that experiment.
12 Q Kevin Gunderson is the person who conducted that
13 experiment, isn't he?
14 A He was among a team. This was a team project. It
15 involved the people both from the chemistry department and from
16 the molecular biology department.
17 Q Did you read Kevin Gunderson's report about the 768
18 bead experiment?
19 A I don't think I did.
20 Q You never did? Even up through today's date you have
21 not seen it?
22 A No.
23 Q Would it surprise you if he said the results were
24 somewhat compromised because of the mislabeling issue?
25 A That certainly could be. Kevin is a great scientist.
26 The fact that results are compromised doesn't lead one to reach
27 the conclusion that the conclusion was wrong or the conclusion was
28 incorrect.
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960
1 Q Did Illumina ever conduct a 4096 bead experiment?
2 A I don't recall. Don't know. I think there might have
3 been feasibility experiments that showed that reaching 4000 was
4 done by Illumina. I don't think we did an experiment to decode
5 4000 beads. So again it's the difference between proof of
6 principle and feasibility versus actually decoding 4000 beads.
7 Q You say the mislabeling the dyes -- strike that. Did
8 the mislabeling of the dyes in your opinion have no effect
9 whatsoever on the results of the 768 decode experiment?
10 A It did not affect the conclusions that one could draw
11 from that experiment.
12 Q Kevin Gunderson is the person who conducted that
13 experiment, isn't he?
14 A He was among a team. This was a team project. It
15 involved the people both from the chemistry department and from
16 the molecular biology department.
17 Q Did you read Kevin Gunderson's report about the 768
18 bead experiment?
19 A I don't think I did.
20 Q You never did? Even up through today's date you have
21 not seen it?
22 A No.
23 Q Would it surprise you if he said the results were
24 somewhat compromised because of the mislabeling issue?
25 A That certainly could be. Kevin is a great scientist.
26 The fact that results are compromised doesn't lead one to reach
27 the conclusion that the conclusion was wrong or the conclusion was
28 incorrect.
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959
1 didn't it?
2 MS KEARNS: Yes, but, your Honor, this witness
3 testified he wasn't the one negotiating.
4 MR. PANTONI: She asked him about this, Judge.
5 THE COURT: I think it would all be based on hearsay
6 since he wasn't involved in the negotiations.
7 MR. PANTONI: I'll ask Mr. Flatley.
8 Q Who's working on binary oligo encoding today?
9 A That's being done by scientist named Gali Stromberg.
10 I'm sorry, Dr. Gali -- I can't remember Gali's last name.
11 Q This is an important area to the company?
12 A Yes.
13 Q Critical?
14 A Yes.
15 Q What's her last name?
16 A Again I'm not recalling her last name. Her name is
17 Gali. She's a scientist from Israel. She does great work.
18 Q And who does Gali, last name unknown, report to?
19 A I believe she reports to Dr. Chanfeng Zhao.
20 Q You testified that Illumina conducted a 16 bead
21 experiment, decoding experiment?
22 A Yes.
23 Q And a 128 bead experiment?
24 A Yes.
25 Q You think maybe a 256?
26 A Yes.
27 Q And a 768?
28 A Yes.
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